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	<title>Comments on: The Importance of Being Funded (at the prototype phase)</title>
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		<title>By: euan @ 3mrt</title>
		<link>http://www.denki.co.uk/2009/12/07/the-importance-of-being-funded-at-the-prototype-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-9676</link>
		<dc:creator>euan @ 3mrt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is good news, 7 years in, one game published (thanks for your help on that Colin!) with 3 games in design...and still looking for prototype funding...we will be applying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is good news, 7 years in, one game published (thanks for your help on that Colin!) with 3 games in design&#8230;and still looking for prototype funding&#8230;we will be applying.</p>
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		<title>By: denkicolin</title>
		<link>http://www.denki.co.uk/2009/12/07/the-importance-of-being-funded-at-the-prototype-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-9661</link>
		<dc:creator>denkicolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep - If Dragons&#039; Denki&#039;s taught us anything it&#039;s that the barrier to entry needs to be higher than one might initially imagine to achieve the best results.  

This applies equally to the quality of teams as much as to the concepts themselves.  After all, anyone who&#039;s been reading Denki&#039;s blog for any length of time will already know we believe the creative process to be limited by great teams rather than great ideas.

And funding should be about proving its value every week - none of this &quot;six months and then we&#039;ll expect some progress&quot; that seems to be the norm so often.  That approach simply doesn&#039;t work when proving concepts in the games industry.  Investments need to be limited in small quanta either by amount or time.

There needs to visible progress at the end of a week&#039;s development, or after an investment of £x amount - enough to justify further investment.  Otherwise don&#039;t expect people to take your word for it.  Go and prove whatever needs to be proved on your own time, at your own expense and *then* come back for additional funding in those cases.

I believe the selection criteria is still to be established, but ensuring it meets the standards we&#039;d expect as professional game developers, as well as tax payers, will definitely be an important part of making this system work for the long-term.

Realistically this is an opportunity to prove a creative development methodology - no more - and that means it&#039;s about results.  If we end up with anything less than a system that delivers the results people expect, it doesn&#039;t really deserve to continue being funded in my opinion.

Which is why I believe getting the process right is *so* vitally important.  Not just for students and game developers, but for showing a way forward for the creative economy as a whole.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep &#8211; If Dragons&#8217; Denki&#8217;s taught us anything it&#8217;s that the barrier to entry needs to be higher than one might initially imagine to achieve the best results.  </p>
<p>This applies equally to the quality of teams as much as to the concepts themselves.  After all, anyone who&#8217;s been reading Denki&#8217;s blog for any length of time will already know we believe the creative process to be limited by great teams rather than great ideas.</p>
<p>And funding should be about proving its value every week &#8211; none of this &#8220;six months and then we&#8217;ll expect some progress&#8221; that seems to be the norm so often.  That approach simply doesn&#8217;t work when proving concepts in the games industry.  Investments need to be limited in small quanta either by amount or time.</p>
<p>There needs to visible progress at the end of a week&#8217;s development, or after an investment of £x amount &#8211; enough to justify further investment.  Otherwise don&#8217;t expect people to take your word for it.  Go and prove whatever needs to be proved on your own time, at your own expense and *then* come back for additional funding in those cases.</p>
<p>I believe the selection criteria is still to be established, but ensuring it meets the standards we&#8217;d expect as professional game developers, as well as tax payers, will definitely be an important part of making this system work for the long-term.</p>
<p>Realistically this is an opportunity to prove a creative development methodology &#8211; no more &#8211; and that means it&#8217;s about results.  If we end up with anything less than a system that delivers the results people expect, it doesn&#8217;t really deserve to continue being funded in my opinion.</p>
<p>Which is why I believe getting the process right is *so* vitally important.  Not just for students and game developers, but for showing a way forward for the creative economy as a whole.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
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		<title>By: Ploppy</title>
		<link>http://www.denki.co.uk/2009/12/07/the-importance-of-being-funded-at-the-prototype-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-9660</link>
		<dc:creator>Ploppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose the big question is, who decides which companies get the funding, and how are the decisions reached? A pitching process such as the one Denki has described seems a reasonable starting point, but it isn&#039;t nearly enough. If we&#039;re asking the taxpayer to bankroll these little ventures, then taxpayers&#039; expectations have to be represented in the process too. What are we getting for our money?

For every stable little studio like Denki doing things right, there are dozens of hapless little startups living on the breadline. Clearly if you aren&#039;t proven capable of running a business, and if you haven&#039;t demonstrated good faith by shouldering a chunk of the risk yourself already, we as taxpayers should not be entertaining the notion of giving you any funding.

Clearly the ideal use for such a fund would be to give proven, established local studios a little more polish time on their demos, to allow them to negotiate with publishers from a stronger position.

The money is there, so it is up to devs now to do the work and prove they aren&#039;t just yet another unprofitable local industry being subsidised by handouts from the taxpayer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the big question is, who decides which companies get the funding, and how are the decisions reached? A pitching process such as the one Denki has described seems a reasonable starting point, but it isn&#8217;t nearly enough. If we&#8217;re asking the taxpayer to bankroll these little ventures, then taxpayers&#8217; expectations have to be represented in the process too. What are we getting for our money?</p>
<p>For every stable little studio like Denki doing things right, there are dozens of hapless little startups living on the breadline. Clearly if you aren&#8217;t proven capable of running a business, and if you haven&#8217;t demonstrated good faith by shouldering a chunk of the risk yourself already, we as taxpayers should not be entertaining the notion of giving you any funding.</p>
<p>Clearly the ideal use for such a fund would be to give proven, established local studios a little more polish time on their demos, to allow them to negotiate with publishers from a stronger position.</p>
<p>The money is there, so it is up to devs now to do the work and prove they aren&#8217;t just yet another unprofitable local industry being subsidised by handouts from the taxpayer.</p>
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		<title>By: Badger</title>
		<link>http://www.denki.co.uk/2009/12/07/the-importance-of-being-funded-at-the-prototype-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-9658</link>
		<dc:creator>Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thousand bows for you, kind sirs of Denkidom!


 Those are great news! I&#039;m just sad that here in Portugal we still have a LONG way to go before that happens...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thousand bows for you, kind sirs of Denkidom!</p>
<p> Those are great news! I&#8217;m just sad that here in Portugal we still have a LONG way to go before that happens&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: denkicolin</title>
		<link>http://www.denki.co.uk/2009/12/07/the-importance-of-being-funded-at-the-prototype-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-9657</link>
		<dc:creator>denkicolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that Denki&#039;s own tech guru Aaron Puzey walking along with the black shoulder-bag on the far right hand side of the Abertay image?  It looks suspiciously like him if it&#039;s not...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that Denki&#8217;s own tech guru Aaron Puzey walking along with the black shoulder-bag on the far right hand side of the Abertay image?  It looks suspiciously like him if it&#8217;s not&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, it pales in comparrison to the years of work for hire to build up a buffer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, it pales in comparrison to the years of work for hire to build up a buffer.</p>
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		<title>By: denkicolin</title>
		<link>http://www.denki.co.uk/2009/12/07/the-importance-of-being-funded-at-the-prototype-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-9655</link>
		<dc:creator>denkicolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True story. And Stew&#039;s describing one of the easier obstacles we faced too! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True story. And Stew&#8217;s describing one of the easier obstacles we faced too! <img src='http://www.denki.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stew</title>
		<link>http://www.denki.co.uk/2009/12/07/the-importance-of-being-funded-at-the-prototype-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-9654</link>
		<dc:creator>Stew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;it was so hard that I wouldn’t wish the same process on Denki’s harshest critics&quot;

I actually wrote it when I only had use of one of my arms. No joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it was so hard that I wouldn’t wish the same process on Denki’s harshest critics&#8221;</p>
<p>I actually wrote it when I only had use of one of my arms. No joke.</p>
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